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Apple Posts $1 Billion Holiday Profit

By Ed Oswald, BetaNews

January 17, 2007, 5:24 PM

Apple shocked Wall Street after the closing bell on Wednesday, reporting both record revenue and profits that broke the $1 billion barrier. On top of these impressive results, the company shipped more than 21 million iPods and 1.6 million Macs, a record number for the former.

The numbers were well above estimates. An average of analysts surveyed by Reuters showed the Street was looking for profit of 77 cents per share on revenue of $6.43 billion. Instead, Revenue rose to $7.12 billion, on profits of $1 billion, or $1.14 per share.

Profits were up a staggering 78 percent year over year, and revenues up 24 percent. The number of iPods sold far exceeded even the rosiest estimates, which had been expecting 15-17 million iPods on average.

Mac sales narrowly missed records, which were set last quarter in Apple's traditionally busy back-to-school period.

We are incredibly pleased to report record quarterly revenue of over $7 billion and record earnings of $1 billion," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "We've just kicked off what is going to be a very strong new product year for Apple by launching Apple TV and the revolutionary iPhone."

In a conference call with analysts Wednesday evening, Apple CFO Peter Oppenheimer disclosed that increased competition in the music player business is not hurting the iPod's market share at all.

In December, iPods had a 72 percent market share in the US according to NPD, and the device gained share in every other market where Apple offers it. iTunes now includes 4 million songs, 350 television shows, and 250 movies, he added.

Apple's retail stores have continued to grow as well, accounting for $1.1 billion in quarterly revenue. 308,000 Macintoshes were sold in stores, the company said.

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By ds0934

edited Jan 22, 2007 - 8:16 AM

I'm sure this will cause the MS cheering section to pause for a few seconds...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/...0122/tc_infoworld/85299

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By Hollywood__

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 4:17 PM

That's one less billion in Microsoft's pockets. Although I think the iPod is more of a fashion/status device to most people, I'm glad the Zune is sucking so bad.

Sansa filled in the market for 59-129 dollar flash based players, and they sound great.

I for one think the iPhone or whatever it will be called will do just fine. You'll see Chad Johnson or Paris Hilton using one and the lemmings will line up to trade in their old phones.

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By xyzcb1

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 10:16 AM

Did I missed something? Announcement of iPhone, the stock jump like 10%. Annoucement of recorded profit, yet, the stock drop 5%. Guess the current price is expecting a bigger surprise.

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By drumcat

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 12:08 PM

Ya, that surprise might have been a "is that all" thing.

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By ds0934

edited Jan 18, 2007 - 10:11 AM

Blah blah blah. The numbers speak for themselves. Revenue is king. Nobody gives a crap about technology unless it translates into shareholder value. Microsoft, IBM, HP, Dell, Apple, all the same. Getting wrapped up in technical crap is staring at the bushes and not seeing the forest. 90 percent of "consumers" don't care about OS versions, chip types, whatever, they want a cool device that's easy to use and doesn't clash with the sofa and that's pretty much it. Those of us that worry about the technical stuff get paid to worry about it. The rest buy it for entertainment or doing email and surfing the web (ok, maybe playing games).

The net result of this is a shot across the bow of the competition to step up or shut up. As long as it stokes the flames of competition, WE ALL BENEFIT.

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By SorenMD

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 9:55 AM

JUST IGNORE THE HATERS. They hate because they fear what they don't understand... Too bad.

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By bourgeoisdude

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 12:47 PM

That statement could be said about certain US leaders as well, I think.

I do not hate Apple by the way--just for the record...

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By foxfyre

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 5:57 PM

Yup, especially those who posit no coherent alternative plan and yet whine about others who have.

Oh yeah, they would do things "differently"!
Just like they would have voted differently.

Now THAT'S a plan!

Unfortunately we are stuck with them as they are, and not as they might be if they had their heads out of the asses talking about what they and others might have done.

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By imafurby

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 1:46 PM

I do, especially their stinkin' TV ads!

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By bourgeoisdude

edited Jan 18, 2007 - 5:18 PM

You mean the over-exaggerated incredibly 100% false advertisements of the "I'm a Mac | and I'm a PC" commercials? Not like that's something that 60% of TV commercials aren't doing, though, and since most people understand the exaggeration behind it, they are smart enough to actually check facts before believing the commercials every word.

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By Grazer

posted Jan 22, 2007 - 1:15 PM

since most people understand the exaggeration behind it, they are smart enough to actually check facts before believing the commercials every word.
I think you are giving "most people" too much credit.

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By foxfyre

edited Jan 18, 2007 - 6:02 PM

100% false huh?
Good, if you actually believed that, you would simply ignore the ads as "everyone knows" that they are 100% incorrect and no one could be fooled by them.

As as this is so obviously apparent, no one needs a ditz such as yourself to keep ranting about it as if there is some reason to tell all of those who already know what YOU alone still think is important to jump up and down and say.

But since you still feel the need to tell everyone, either your claim is incorrect, or you are are just too stupid to realize it.

Take your pick.

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By imafurby

posted Jan 19, 2007 - 4:24 PM

Girls please! I hate Gieco more though, with a depth that knows no bounds.

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By divinelogic

edited Jan 18, 2007 - 5:31 AM

Once again, it's marketing 101.

Apple produces commercials that make PCs look bad, but they are really aiming at Microsoft Windows. It's the operating system that allows viruses, spyware, and worms to infect the system, not the hardware.

But the general public isn't aware of the reality of information technology. They don't know that PCs can run all flavors of linux and most unix, and they definitely don't know about Mac OS X 10.4.8 for PC (thanks to the JaS team and all others who make this possible). No, they don't think about the fact that since the Macs are now using Intel processors, it's x86 logic, and not PowerPC (RISC).

No, they don't know that Mac OS X is built on a FreeBSD unix kernel, with the Mach 3 microkernel. They don't know about operating systems like Fedora, Ubuntu, Knoppix, Suse, Solaris, and others, which can be downloaded and used for free.

They don't realize it's cheaper to buy a PC and run Linux than it is to buy a Mac, and they don't understand it's actually more secure doing this than running Mac OS X.

No, they don't really know the Truth.

As far as iPod is concerned, if Apple were smart, they would open that format up to receive other types of files, instead of limiting it to just iTunes and quicktime.

So who cares Apple made $1 billion in profit over the holidays? That just tells me that they are making a decent amount of profit per unit, which means they are really overcharging for their products.

Apple is just as bad as Intel and Microsoft.

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By bugmenot

posted Jan 22, 2007 - 3:35 PM

Amen. That Mad TV skit pretty much summed up Apple fans.

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By dhjdhj

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 4:12 PM

Hmmm,I'm pretty sure that last time I used my iPod, it was playing MP3 files.

---->As far as iPod is concerned, if Apple were smart, they would open that format up to receive other types of files, instead of limiting it to just iTunes and quicktime.

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By PC_Tool

posted Jan 19, 2007 - 8:47 AM

I believe he means being able to add music to it without needing iTunes installed. I don't have one, a friend of mine does. I cannot add music to his iPod form my PC since I refuse to install iTunes. If the damn thing would just show up as a drive, things would be quite a bit smoother.

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By ds0934

edited Jan 19, 2007 - 9:45 AM

It shows up as a drive on all my XP and Vista machines. Double-check your USB device settings. You can convert MP3/WMV/WMA using other products and simply copy them over if you hate iTunes (lot's of others hate it too)

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By foxfyre

edited Jan 18, 2007 - 6:45 AM

LOL!

Yep, they should buy a PC instead of a Mac.

Hey Genius, the Mac is a PC! Duh! So tell us more about what 'they' don't know!

Now tell us all about the plethora of applications available for those flavors of Linux. Oops! Now I understand your claim regarding Linux security.

...Just another high school wizard who thinks everyone should live with their parents until they are 55 writing code for free.

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By bourgeoisdude

edited Jan 18, 2007 - 12:38 PM

"Hey Genius, the Mac is a PC! Duh! So tell us more about what 'they' don't know!"

As far as I know, Macs have never, ever been refered to as PCs (Personal Computers, just to remind those who forget the acronym) EDIT: I am obviously mistaken with the previous statement as the Mac was considered to be a PC up until about 1983 when IBM PCs were gaining steam. Despite this, I still believe that especially since the Windows 95 era, Apple has largely disowned the "PC" title, specifically to try to make Apple Macs a more unique product in their own separate category.

They were always designed more for business applications, while PCs were at least at one time released more for personal use.

Read this excerpt from a Mac advertisment on Apple.com:
"So you have to run just that one thing, or maybe your office requires it. No PC? No problem. New software helps the latest Intel-based Macs run Windows applications." -- http://www.apple.com/getamac/

Obviously, "PC" is nothing more than a technical term because I can own some quad-core dual cpu rackmount server and use it for my personal use all day long--it still is not technically a PC. Same with Macs--they actually fill the same role 90% of the time that "PCs" fill--but they were never PCs.

Don't believe me? Look at apple's website and find one statement or even indication that Macs are PCs. Apple will disown that statement because that is the imagined unreality that "sets them apart from the rest of the market". The more they sound, look, and appear to be unique, the more attractive they are--even if the difference is in name only.

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By foxfyre

edited Jan 18, 2007 - 5:38 PM

The Mac is now simly the latest incarnation of Intel's Roadmap incorporating the EFI BIOS.

It is now a PC whether you like it or not. Run whatever OS on it you like or trademark a name for it...it is a PC. It is fully compliant with the hardware design standards as defined by Intel. I don't care what decal you stick on it or whether you call it by some cute name.

Let me repeat: they are the latest incarnation of the "Intel Roadmap". Attend an Intel Developer's conference and find out what that means!

You can call a Volkswagon a bug all you like. It is still an automobile.

But then "everyone knows that". Funny how some seem threatened by it...

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By PC_Tool

edited Jan 18, 2007 - 11:44 AM

This link from Macworld seems to disagree with you:
http://www.macworld.com/...res/pcworld25/index.php

As does this link from Apple:
http://www.apple.com/pr/...ry/2003/jun/23pmg5.html (There's your one statement from Apple's website)

I see what you are getting at, but for all intents and purposes, they are, and have been since the Apple I, personal computers.

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By bourgeoisdude

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 12:45 PM

The second link I did find most interesting--I also noticed they specifically mention it as a personal computer, but never say Personal Computer or PC. The capital letters in "PC" have typically been associated with "IBM compatible PC", and thus they do at least still avoid using the "PC" term.

Seems weird to me, that Apple compares Macs "against" PCs, yet calls them personal computers. Perhaps they feel that "PC" still implies the "IBM compatible" phrase with it. Who knows?

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By foxfyre

edited Jan 18, 2007 - 6:04 PM

IBM compatible. Hmmmm. How long has it been since IBM was a manufacturer of X86 anything!

The irony is that the Mac was the true IBM clone, as all of the hardware technology licensed in the Mac, from SCSI to ultimately the PowerPC was IBM's technology.

If you want to differentiate either, it would make more sense to do do based upon the OS environment, not the hardware! OSX make s it a "
Mac", not the hardware! The hardware, by virtue of it being identical to the Intel Roadmap, qualifies as a PC - complete to its also running Windows.

So tell me, exactly what does IBM compatible or IBM clone mean now since you are so captivated by what are almost arbitrary semantics. After all, for over 10 years, the true IBM clone or IBM compatible was the Mac. Duh!

Think about it when you are in the little boys room, no its a toilet, no a commode, no a rest room, no a bathroom, no its a lavatory...

ROFLMAO... Your life must be very complicated with so much to worry about!

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By mrow

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 5:00 PM

More importantly, who really gives a s*** dude?

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By drumcat

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 2:47 AM

Well, for all the people that dump money in their overpriced hardware, I hope you have some AAPL.

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By mrow

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 5:02 PM

Go to Dell and configure a similar spec'd desktop PC or laptop. The prices will be the same. Go spec out a MacPro vs. a Dell workstation and the Mac will be cheaper. How long will it take before people realize this "overpriced" or more expensive stuff hasn't been true for the last few years...

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By foxfyre

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 5:34 PM

Be careful! Don't confuse the poor folks further.

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By PostDeals

posted Jan 17, 2007 - 9:31 PM

I am happy for Apple, wish I had bought the stock 4 years ago when it was @ $9.00

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By dhjdhj

posted Jan 17, 2007 - 11:29 PM

Well, don't feel too bad. This forum is full of people who have been busy claiming that Apple is no good and that it wouldn't do well, even though its growth rate was well documented to be over 30%/year.

It's easy to be religious and consequently ignore the facts!

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By PC_Tool

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 11:50 AM

It's easy to be religious and consequently ignore the facts!

Isn't that kind of the whole point of religion /fanaticism?

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By bugmenot

posted Jan 17, 2007 - 5:46 PM

Steve Jobs & Apple should go Green
Follow the lead given by Greenpeace and be pro-environment!
www.greenpeace.org/apple/

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By markadmin

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 12:24 AM

Greenpeace Idiots should die and quit being terrorist. You f*&&%*& people do no good. Go climb a tree and play with yourself.

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By smarterthanyou

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 2:19 AM

Are you sure you're not talking about ELF?

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By Desides

posted Jan 17, 2007 - 9:25 PM

Better yet, Greenpeace should stop complaining about unreachable standards and should instead realize that Apple is one of the greenest companies out there.

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By Heero

posted Jan 17, 2007 - 11:03 PM

Compared to some of the other 'big' companies, Apple really isn't all that green.

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By Desides

posted Jan 17, 2007 - 11:47 PM

Such as?

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By Paul Skinner

edited Jan 17, 2007 - 6:22 PM

I quite agree. Bring on the Green Apple.

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By peter4654

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 5:57 AM

Apple make so much money because their products are good and not because they're overpriced. Most people don't spend their money on overpriced junk, but are prepared to pay extra for quality goods.

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By imafurby

posted Jan 18, 2007 - 3:18 PM

The voice of the evangelist!! Overpriced? Have you really looked at the quality of Apple stuff? Why don't you, for example, take an iPod apart and see how much "quality" is inside.

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