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Firefox 3.0 Release Candidate 1 available on Mozilla servers

By Scott M. Fulton, III, BetaNews

May 16, 2008, 12:23 PM

Moving right along according to plan, the first release candidate of Firefox 3.0 appeared this morning among Mozilla's beta and candidate downloads. BetaNews has obtained the link, and RC1 is downloadable now.

Download Mozilla Firefox 3.0 RC1 from BetaNews FileForum now.

On previous occasions during this testing cycle, what appeared to be public betas of Firefox 3 showed up in just the right place on Mozilla's servers, at just the right time, but ended up being internal builds of the product. BetaNews is testing this RC1 download now, and will have more news about it later this afternoon.



UPDATE 12:43 pm ET May 16, 2008 - As best as we can tell, it's the genuine article. As expected, most of the plug-ins recently upgraded for usability with Beta 5 were inoperable in this version, though our plug-in to switch rendering engines with Internet Explorer at will, is functional. The "About" screen clearly registered the product as "Firefox 3.0" instead of "Firefox 3.0b5." And after installation, the browser attempted to load a "What's new in 3.0" page that does not yet exist.

In the early going, we notice one obvious new addition: A link marked "Most Visited" appears next to the "Smart Bookmarks" button in the Links toolbar, which itself was an addition that cropped up, we believe, in Beta 3. Clicking on this button brings up a list of URLs that appear to be the top 10 members of the current History buffer.

The default skin looks ever-so-slightly tweaked, with more space between the new "Back" and "Forward" rocker-switch-looking contraption and the "Reload current page" button. Some pixels appear to have been cropped from the Address bar to make room.

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By davidtb

posted May 19, 2008 - 12:06 PM

I'm glad they fixed the mouse over issues.
Now get all my extensions updated, and it'll be Sweet!!

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By DudeBoyz

posted May 19, 2008 - 6:41 AM

Looks okay, but putting bookmarks in the drop down URL field is just flat out confusing.

You expect that when you clear the history, it clears a list of all sites you have visited, but for some unfathomable reason, they wanted to put bookmarks in there too.

Theme support is again a pain in the tail. I did find one that is called PAST MODERN v 0.1.08.05.17, which is close to the Modern Aluminum skin I prefer. I'm baffled why the updates that they make seem to break themes like crazy.

I had read that they would include an inline auto-complete function for the address/url field, but it doesn't seem to work nearly as well as the one in IE 6 under the Advanced tab under the Internet Options. When you check the box in front of Use Inline Auto-Complete, IE 6 executes the feature the proper way. If Firefox is going to add that feature, it should work the same way, because it's the best way, imo. :)

It was annoying that I had to register just to download skins and such, but just because I never had to before.

I really do wish they had some more default TAB features, cause right now, so many extensions are broken, like Tab Mix Plus.

Still, all things considered, I think it is a pretty decent release, and I hope they keep on plugging away and make it even better.

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By lastjuan

posted May 19, 2008 - 9:47 AM

About the theme support, I'm 100% behind you.

You could download a workable version on this thread topic. I hope it helps.

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By megabytez

edited May 19, 2008 - 1:55 AM

not compatible with youplayer.. :(
compatible with speed dial but shortcut(ctrl+ #) not working.. waaa..

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By Morsel

posted May 18, 2008 - 10:00 PM

There is still a few minor issues but it looks very promising.

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By LentoMan

edited May 18, 2008 - 4:15 PM

Just add -profilemanager to your firefox shortcut and you can create another profile for ff3.
You can then start your other profile with -P yourprofile

Or you could create it somewhere else with:
firefox.exe -createprofile "testuser c:\testuser"
and then start with:
forefox.exe -profile "c:\testuser"

There are lots of other parameters, too many to list here.

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By internetworld7

posted May 18, 2008 - 3:51 PM

I've noticed that this new RC1 release is a bit snappier when first launched and renders web pages even faster than beta 5. The folks over at Mozilla are truly amazing.

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By preinterpost

posted May 19, 2008 - 8:40 AM

Which is no surprise since Betas typically have a more extensive logging level turned on.

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By Crispy777

posted May 18, 2008 - 2:11 PM

Someone on the internet is wrong! Let's FIGHT! Lol.

Are you guys running FF3 alongside FF2 without v3 messing with v2 settings? My FF2 is pretty much working perfectly with all it's addons and wouldn't want to get it messed up, althoug I'm obviously interested in trying FF3...

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By mjm01010101

posted May 18, 2008 - 9:13 PM

Nope. Dumped 2 after I saw incredible speed enhancements. When 3 final comes out I will restore my bookmarks and preferences from then.

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By rdtmk5

edited May 18, 2008 - 4:20 PM

I am currently running FF3 RC1 and FF2 at the same time without any issues at all. Here's how: http://ellaborg.blogspot...x-3-co-exists-with.html. Follow the instructions exactly and you will not have a problem. Cheers!

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By mytake4this

posted May 18, 2008 - 2:53 PM

I would recommend simply waiting. You can go to portableapps.com and download the portable version of FF3, if you just can't wait. Some things to like in the new one, though nothing earthshaking, I would say. New and improved is always good, but the finished version in not so far away.

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By techdawg667

posted May 18, 2008 - 2:04 PM

The Firefox Back and Forward buttons look a bit IE-ish.

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By internetworld7

posted May 18, 2008 - 3:54 PM

Yeah, I can't see the logic in Mozilla doing that. It's not necessary. It even looks like that on the Mac version. However, I am using the YummyGrapple theme and the fission extension to fix that and make it more Mac like. Those little touches make a big difference.

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By sturgess

posted May 17, 2008 - 4:56 PM

Wonder why the Opera gang has not arrived yet, probably still trying to get online.

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By Paul Skinner

posted May 18, 2008 - 11:10 AM

Opera != Dial up

I prefer Opera because it suits me, you prefer Firefox because it suits you.

Stop being a tart about it and get on with your life.

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By sturgess

posted May 18, 2008 - 3:02 PM

Don't be daft, I use IE8.

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By mytake4this

posted May 18, 2008 - 1:36 PM

And may I add that while I use FF much of the day, there is at least one site which I must use without it crashing, and only Opera works best in this case. Actually, for working stuff, I prefer Opera. For browsing and the forums, I prefer FF. Both work well in their own way. The ie7 is the only one not used by little ol' me these days. I have used FF3 portable, and it is OK. The memory use is still there, but we all have more memory on our systems these days.

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By preinterpost

posted May 19, 2008 - 8:41 AM

:))

You got me curious. What kind of work do you do if Opera is your default browser and the only one capable of handing it?

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By Sven123456789

edited May 17, 2008 - 5:47 PM

Of 17 extensions I have, only 2 came over. And no, Adblock didn't work. Though i didnt try adblock plus which a user says below works. And the forecastfox did also. Overall, the authors of these add ons need to get cracken.

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By DonGato

posted May 19, 2008 - 8:40 AM

As this is done in their free time and nobody pay them why do you expect extension developers to spend huge amounts of time with each new Firefox version? I foresee a decrease in extension/theme support with every new Firefox release if they keep this behavior of breaking everything. At least the most creative ones.

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By ToeKneeC

posted May 17, 2008 - 2:49 PM

IE7 is way better then 6, as they took a lot of ideas from Firefox. But to say no addons. Try IE7PRO for IE7. Adds most of what people are adding into Firefox below. http://fileforum.betanew...ail/IE7pro/1168277137/1
Don't get me wrong. I have both installed but was forced to start using IE7 at work (corp policy no firefox). And for the people that say IE7 or IE8 sucks - explain why.

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By Metshrine

posted May 17, 2008 - 10:03 PM

And this has what to do with the above posters reply?

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By Setian^Stalker

posted May 18, 2008 - 12:05 PM

Original post said IE7 was a huge step back from IE6.
Guess he saw the stupidity in that claim and changed it :)

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By ToeKneeC

posted May 17, 2008 - 11:37 PM

Something changed - there was an edit done - so no mine makes no sense. Doesn't matter though - I like firefox - I like IE7 but only with IE7Pro added :)

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By Setian^Stalker

edited May 17, 2008 - 12:32 PM

Frankly I find it hard to compair firefox and IE anymore.
IE is just a browser that works well
Firefox is just a browser and SO much more. Its the sandbox for browsers.

Some people just want that browser, others want that so much more.
Can we all be friends? :)

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By GimieGimieGimie

edited May 17, 2008 - 11:31 AM

"IE8 will be better then Firefox 3!!"

Going on previous efforts on IE, i highly doubt it.

Microsoft simply cannot be arsed.

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By gate1975mlm

posted May 17, 2008 - 11:02 AM

IE8 will be better then Firefox 3!!

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By preinterpost

posted May 19, 2008 - 8:43 AM

I hope so. Right now I still prefer IE (with ie7pro of course...) but FF3 seems an excellent piece of work.

Good for us if IE8 is better....

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By rdtmk5

posted May 17, 2008 - 11:19 AM

Bravo! Not afraid to stand up for what he/she believes!

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By rdtmk5

posted May 17, 2008 - 10:29 AM

What is the use in arguing for or against Firefox or IE or whatever? Sure, I think Firefox 3 is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but that doesn't mean I should look with disdain on someone who chooses to use an archaic, bloated, over-the-hill browser like IE, right? After all, it's a free country. Bad decisions aren't against the law (though one might argue that choosing IE should be). My point is that we should all just try to get along (even if using IE demonstrates a bit of technical naivete). See, I can be reasonable and objective! Embrace our differences - that's my motto.

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By ToeKneeC

posted May 17, 2008 - 9:00 AM

Not bad - loads much faster on my Vista Box then 2.X (I mean really, really faster). I'm still an IE7 fan with ie7Pro installed. Gives me most of what I need. But FireFox3 might get me to come back.

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By sturgess

edited May 17, 2008 - 6:59 AM

Thankfully we folk who use IE8 don't squabble amongst ourselves. We also don't brag about how many extensions we have installed ! Bill has fortunately already supplied all we require in a browser, and for that we thank him.

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By Paul Skinner

posted May 18, 2008 - 11:12 AM

IE8 is quite bad at the moment, but I'm looking forward to the final build when it's vaguely stable.

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By PC_Tool

posted May 17, 2008 - 9:38 AM

*laughing*

That was brilliant! Gotta remember that one...

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By guitarplayer9999

posted May 17, 2008 - 9:01 AM

IE8 = Microsoft crapware

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By preinterpost

posted May 19, 2008 - 8:43 AM

You are out of tune.

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By Searinox

posted May 17, 2008 - 3:29 AM

WE NEED A GOOGLE TOOLBAR ALREADY!! PEOPLE!!!!

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By techdawg667

edited May 17, 2008 - 1:58 PM

UNITE!!!!

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By Adrian79

posted May 17, 2008 - 9:20 AM

lol why? it has the little box on top right corner you can choose google as default..
hmmmm

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By Sparky

edited May 16, 2008 - 11:59 PM

If you're having problems, start out with a new profile. Using Ff2 profiles have been known to cause problems previously.

Most extensions that were compatible with 3.0b5 are most likely compatible with this release. You can use this addon to get them to install
http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly

And if the extensions listed on addons.mozilla.org aren't compatible, go to the developer's home page and see if they have a development build. Many do.

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By pnutts

posted May 17, 2008 - 1:17 AM

Per the article:

"As expected, most of the plug-ins recently upgraded for usability with Beta 5 were inoperable in this version..."

'nuff said.

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By chspnll

edited May 16, 2008 - 10:53 PM

Useless.

Undid all my bookmark configurations and rolled back to a very old profile.

How does this happen?

I am ripping this and rolling back.

Score=0

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By dink

posted May 16, 2008 - 8:27 PM

OK....Does Greasemonkey work with FF3??
I run around 50 different Greasemonkey scripts in order to manipulate web pages the way I want them to appear.

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By Ian C.

posted May 17, 2008 - 2:55 AM

Yes, works flawlessly.

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By yountmj

edited May 16, 2008 - 7:36 PM

My favorite extensions that I use carried over perfectly from 3.0b5:

NoScript 1.6.5
Adblock Plus 0.7.5.4
Forecastfox Enhanced 0.9.5.2
Gmail Notifier 0.6.3.2

So far it's been a pleasant experience. I've loved every new release of 3.0 more and more.

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By PC_Tool

posted May 16, 2008 - 8:32 PM

Great.

Add opendownload, TMP, and downthemall to that list, and I am sold. :)

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By Sparky

posted May 17, 2008 - 12:51 AM

Grab TMP from the Dev-Build discussion thread
http://tmp.garyr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7031

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By PC_Tool

posted May 17, 2008 - 9:37 AM

Had issues with the DEV version for b4 that was supposed to work. Made a mess of things real nice.

Meh...

I'll wait. :)

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By evansims360

edited May 16, 2008 - 11:07 PM

opendownload hasn't been updated for FF3.0 as far as I can tell, but TMP and DownThemAll! both work in 3.0 RC1. Grab the developer build of TMP off the official site.

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By internetworld7

posted May 16, 2008 - 7:11 PM

I guess we'll get an official release Monday.

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By GS5

posted May 16, 2008 - 5:50 PM

No mayor problems here except for the add-ons incompatibility. Only 14 of my add-ons work. And FF still eats up a $h!t load of memory. Although it does seem a little faster than FF 2.0.

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By artfuldodga

posted May 16, 2008 - 8:08 PM

I use 12 addons and I find that number to be conservative, as opposed to some folks, although it all depends on what those addons are that could be the cause of high memory usage.

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By GS5

posted May 16, 2008 - 9:40 PM

12 is very conservative, I have a friend that has 80+ add-ons. I use about 20 add-ons, which I find pretty reasonable. But today I installed a clean version of FF3 and the memory that is used up was between 45 and 55mb. And this was with no additional add-ons. So I don't know, maybe it's just me.

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By internetworld7

posted May 16, 2008 - 6:54 PM

Wow, are you joking? You have 14 EXTENSIONS and you're complaining that Firefox 3 RC1 still eats up memory? Just in case you missed it, Firefox 3 significantly improves memory usage and memory leaks.

I recommend you try parting with some of those UNnecessary extensions and memory usage should be much smaller on your computer.

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By mytake4this

posted May 16, 2008 - 9:57 PM

Well they say it does improve on memory use, but I have not found it to be so. I have run FF3 and found the memory use to be about the same as the current app. It is stable and works fine, but takes memory all the way. I think most people have plenty of memory on hand these days, so it is not as much an issue. Opera gobbles up memory too.

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By PC_Tool

posted May 16, 2008 - 6:01 PM

Only 14?

Wow.

Perhaps is eats up a lot of memory because of the absurd number of add-ons? For most folks it seems, FF3 has pretty much solved the memory issues.

Also seems most folks agree on the add-on compatibility issue. Seems a lot of us are going to wait for the final (and hopefully the migration of all of our most beloved add-ons), regardless of quantity. ;)

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By GS5

posted May 16, 2008 - 6:57 PM

PC_Tool don't be a smart @$$! :-) Obviously the add-ons increase memory. I'm talking about a clean install with no extra add-ons installed.

And btw a absurd number of add-ons would be more than 50, I'm still in the 40's:-)

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By PC_Tool

posted May 16, 2008 - 8:28 PM

PC_Tool don't be a smart @$$! :-)

*laughs*

...like asking a fish not to swim, my friend. It ain't gonna happen. ;)

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By tscar13

edited May 16, 2008 - 8:15 PM

All right ..I'll bite.. GS? can you please list 40 plugins that truly enhance the browsing experience? If so, I'll copy your response and save it for when I install this new version and add these plugins. I mean that and I am not being sarcastic.
Oh and the Betanews neo-nazis are out in full force and selectively enforcing their TOS portion of "personal attacks". Pc seems exempt but others are fair game.

Have a nice evening.:)

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By GS5

posted May 16, 2008 - 9:34 PM

Sorry to disappoint you tscar13, but I don't use 40 add-ons. I have less than 20. But since you want to know what add-ons I can't live without, here they are:

Adblock Plus, All-in-One Sidebar, Bookmarks on line, DownThemall!, Febe, Feed Sidebar, Fierr, FlashGot, Full Screen, Nighly Tester, NoScript, Personal Menu, Sercure Login, Tab Mix Plus, Throbber Botton, WebMail Notifier, Flagfox, OpenDownload, Organize Status Bar

Enjoy!

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By tscar13

posted May 16, 2008 - 9:44 PM

Thank you. I only use 3-4 and some of these are interesting.

Have a great day:)

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By PC_Tool

edited May 16, 2008 - 8:31 PM

Name one person I've attacked in this topic, Oh Wise One.

Just one.

Relax, tscar. I am not picking on anyone out of spite, nor am I intentionally being cruel to anyone. To be perfectly honest, I simply don't care enough to put that much effort into it.

...In case you haven't noticed, I post here for fun. I enjoy messing with people. You can go ahead and take it personally if you must, but don't expect me to return the favor. :)

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By robmanic44

posted May 17, 2008 - 4:56 PM

I must be one of the few and the proud, but I enjoy your comments. They actually contain information. Some of the stuff I see is pure, unadulterated ignorance.

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By PC_Tool

posted May 17, 2008 - 11:25 PM

You're a Marine? ;)

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By robmanic44

posted May 18, 2008 - 6:13 AM

I'm a retired cop. Up against the wall and spread'em.

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By yountmj

posted May 17, 2008 - 9:53 PM

I agree... even his sarcasm is brilliant! :)

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By tscar13

edited May 16, 2008 - 9:06 PM

Laughing...PC? I knew you were lurking in the shadows and wanted to entice you in and I have been shot down so many times, I don't care. Welcome back from lurking.:)

Have a nice day:)

Oh and for the future, I will make provocative statements just to see how people react.:)

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By PC_Tool

posted May 17, 2008 - 9:36 AM

Oh and for the future, I will make provocative statements just to see how people react.:)

How ... "me" of you. Now try to make them relevant and, ya know, true, and you've got it nailed. ;)

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By dvferret

posted May 16, 2008 - 6:32 PM

Yah I was about to say, maybe it is the 14 plugins lol.

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By Sven123456789

posted May 16, 2008 - 5:44 PM

Good Browser, but the extension/add on thing is starting to worry me. Allot of mine still don't work. I know its not a final release, but when i was using 1.5 and the upcoming 2 series was going through its beta and release phases, All my add on's came over. I know its up to the authors of each add on to be up on the newest Browser version. But as of now, Its Still Seamonkey and Firefox 2.0.0.14 i will stick with.

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By philosopher_dog

posted May 16, 2008 - 5:34 PM

Plugins. That's what we love about FF. But it seems they're also the biggest issue with making the transition to v3. Maybe Mozilla should give some thought to this in the next major update. Most plugins are actually compatible and can be easily made to be, but it requires tweaking that's probably beyond the average user. I personally won't be switching until every plugin I love is working properly. I'll bet most plugin writers will wait until its final before even bothering with a re-write, and I imagine many great plugins will never get redone, since some of the authors have moved on. This will mean that some people will just stay with v2.

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By Maymne

posted May 16, 2008 - 6:33 PM

Regarding the plugins that "don't work" but really do, just use the Nightly Tester Tools plugin... That one allows you to make anything officially compatible if you'd like. Voila, everything (that works) is fixed, one easy step. :)

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By internetworld7

posted May 16, 2008 - 6:59 PM

Thanks for that cool tip. :)

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By PC_Tool

posted May 16, 2008 - 8:38 PM

Try to install that prior to upgrading. Makes life a bit easier...

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By PC_Tool

posted May 16, 2008 - 5:58 PM

100% agreed, my man.

Don't think our wish for an end to the addon issues will ever come true, but I'm right there with ya on it.

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By JeremyGNJ

posted May 16, 2008 - 2:31 PM

This crashes when running SilverLight over remote desktop connection.

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By mjm01010101

edited May 16, 2008 - 3:38 PM

No crashing issues here. RDP'ing to XP SP3, 2 gig RAM.

I do get "echoed" sound effects, however.

Flash works normally and always has over RDP, of course.

Poor Microsoft, one day they'll catch up.

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By mjm01010101

posted May 16, 2008 - 3:47 PM

OK I just checked out Silverlight on IE7 under RDP and I get the same echoing effects. Some of the sites in Microsoft's "showcase" didn't even work when I visited. I am using current version according to Microsoft's test page."The latest version of Silverlight 1.0 is installed:
version 1.0.30401.0"

Based on my experience I'd say the problems are much more to do with with Silverlight rather than Firefox.

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By PC_Tool

posted May 16, 2008 - 2:45 PM

Wow.

Why are you running Silverlight over RDP? (Not that you shouldn't be able to, but....)

Report it. Hopefully they'll get it worked out before release of the final.

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By JeremyGNJ

posted May 16, 2008 - 2:26 PM

Wow, remember when IE7 came out and everyone said how stupid the "giant back button" looked?

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By testman

posted May 16, 2008 - 6:45 PM

What giant back button?

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By mjm01010101

posted May 16, 2008 - 3:17 PM

Thankfully you can customize the FF button easily. You cannot with the IE button.

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By DakotaSunRunner

posted May 16, 2008 - 1:52 PM

Excellent browser and coming along nicely. I have no real complaints, after all is it free, it is not like you had to buy it. Some people on this forum would argue over colored toilet paper and you need to get a life. Geez

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By tscar13

posted May 16, 2008 - 2:02 PM

"colored toilet paper? They actually make that? I prefer the brown on white Contrast myself. But thanks for the news that everything works fine with FF as I like it.

Have a nice day:)

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By mjm01010101

posted May 16, 2008 - 1:51 PM

All my extensions work fine: adblock plus, noscript, download statusbar.

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By andrewdownloader

posted May 16, 2008 - 1:43 PM

New feature on FF3: Spyware. Great !! Mozilla collecting info from users to track used data .
http://www.favbrowser.co...efox-to-track-user-data/

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By mjm01010101

posted May 16, 2008 - 2:04 PM

Looks opt in. No problem with opt-in.

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By tscar13

posted May 16, 2008 - 1:58 PM

Gee.. that's a shocker! STOP THE PRESSES..BREAKING NEWS..
With all do respect Andrew, a lot of browsers and programs (Google, for example) have for a long time done that. It helps create a demographic profile to better target ads. While the line sometimes gets blurred, there is a difference between adware and spyware.

Have a nice day and have a beer (if you're of age):)

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By PC_Tool

posted May 16, 2008 - 4:18 PM

With all do respect Andrew,

...due respect.

Just because. ;)

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By tscar13

edited May 16, 2008 - 7:55 PM

no..just trying to be nice in case the Betanews neo-nazis are practicing their Goose-stepping nearby:)

Have a nice evening:)
Caught again in a typo. I often wonder if that creep Fulton and PC play tagteam:) but I made a mistake so be it do=due. From now fair is fair.. any Typo or Misspellings will be pointed out.

BTW PC? did you find your typo on one of your post or should I point it out to you.?:)

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By PC_Tool

edited May 16, 2008 - 8:26 PM

or should I point it out to you.?

Well, you seem to take offense to it, but I would actually appreciate it.

Being corrected is far better than being ignorant.

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By tscar13

edited May 16, 2008 - 9:19 PM

Actually, do whatever you want. It makes no difference. My own attitude is that typos happen and this site unlike the articles which should be correct is just a comment page so, generally, I ignore typos and spelling errors unless they interfere with understadning the post.

Have a nice day:)

"Being corrected is far better than being ignorant"= arrogance but since you don't care it's ok:)

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By PC_Tool

posted May 17, 2008 - 9:34 AM

How the hell is not wanting to have typos arrogance?

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By techdawg667

posted May 17, 2008 - 2:08 PM

here we go again...

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By PC_Tool

posted May 16, 2008 - 1:10 PM

As expected, most of the plug-ins recently upgraded for usability with Beta 5 were operable in this version, though our plug-in to switch rendering engines with Internet Explorer at will, is functional.

The wording there is a little funky, Scott. As expected, most worked, though the IE-TAb extension worked? Makes no sense. I think you missed a "in" before "operable" or a "non-" before "functional". :)

Can't wait until it's the real deal. Love the Beta 4, got sick of the plugin issue though. Will wait now until it's final.

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By Ryusennin

posted May 18, 2008 - 8:02 AM

People having problems with non-functional plugins should install Night Tester before talking garbage.

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By PC_Tool

posted May 19, 2008 - 9:03 AM

If they want to include those tools as part of the default distribution, that is fine. Until then, the complaints are valid.

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By SMFulton3

posted May 16, 2008 - 1:29 PM

You're right, Tool, that was funky. I poked Update on that piece about 12 times, and the language got garbled. Note my correction.

-SF3

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By tscar13

edited May 16, 2008 - 8:06 PM

You two should get a room and then fight over who is on top.:)

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By preinterpost

posted May 19, 2008 - 8:46 AM

Oh, the love-hate relationship is quite entertaining. They should keep it on the forum - or open a dedicated section.

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By PC_Tool

posted May 16, 2008 - 2:37 PM

Thank, Scott.

Things are much better when they make sense. ;)

Based on the current wording (*nudge*) I'll definately be holding off. Firefox just isn't my kind of browser unless the extensions I have come to depend on are working.

Can't wait for it to hit final though.

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Jul 3 - 4:34 PM ET Do-it-yourself phone manufacturer declares its independence tomorrow

Jul 3 - 4:16 PM ET Study: US broadband access up overall, but down among the poor

Jul 3 - 3:54 PM ET Beta test a portable Web browsing device

Jul 3 - 3:20 PM ET Nvidia: 'Previous generation' GPUs failing at high rates