Oracle Accuses SAP of Massive 'Corporate Theft'

Accusing its competitor of "corporate theft on a grand scale," business software rival Oracle sued SAP on Thursday in U.S. District Court in San Francisco.

The Redwood Shores, Calif. company claims that SAP used the access codes of its customers to gain access to the company's servers and then download copyrighted material. It further alleges that the company kept a large library of Oracle's property on its own servers.

Oracle seeks an injunction preventing any future access by SAP to its support system, and seeks unspecified damages and court costs.

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SAP so far is not commenting publicly on the allegations. On the other hand, Oracle has set up a Web site detailing the suit, and looks to be set to take on the company in public.

"This case is about corporate theft on a grand scale, committed by the largest German software company -- a conglomerate known as SAP," Oracle wrote in its complaint.

Among the accusations listed in the 44-page complaint are pretexting methods used to gain access to Oracle's password protected customer support website; downloading of copyrighted software; theft of support documents and materials.

In one case, Oracle alleged a SAP computer in the US logged on as Honeywell International and downloaded documents on nearly the entire line of Oracle products, even above and beyond what the client was authorized for.

Oracle estimates that SAP may have downloaded illicit material as many as 10,000 times. "In short, to try to 'keep the pressure on Oracle,' SAP has been engaged in a systematic program of unfair, unlawful, and deceptive business practices that continues to this day," it argued.

Among the laws Oracle alleges that SAP has broken include the Federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and California Computer Data Access and Fraud Act, Unfair Competition, Intentional and Negligent Interference with Prospective Economic Advantage and Civil Conspiracy.

No date for a hearing has been set.

13 Responses to Oracle Accuses SAP of Massive 'Corporate Theft'

  1. bourgeoisdude says:

    I doubt the accusations are true, but only for one major reason: they're sueing in San Francisco. Well--perhaps that and the fact that it's too easy--this can be proven fairly easily I would think, and SAP may have done something illegal but likely it's not one one-hundredth as bad as Oracle is implying it is.

    "Oracle seeks an injunction preventing any future access by SAP to its support system, and seeks unspecified damages and court costs."

    Unspecified amount in court costs and damages? That's where the courts in San Francisco make a reputation for themselves. They'll win an unimaginable bonus should they win.

  2. dhjdhj says:

    I don't understand your logic - how would the fact that the lawsuit is in San Franciso imply that the accusations are not true?

    • bourgeoisdude says:

      I was just using a slight pinch of humor...

      San Francisco Judges are fairly well-known for their numerous bizarre rulings in this country, suffice to say.

      • horsecharles says:

        Yeah, at their average advanced age, most count maryjane among their various prescriptions.

      • zridling says:

        Getting rid of the 'god' word in the pledge of allegiance is a good idea, not bizarre. Quit publicly supporting myths with taxpayer money. We don't pray to Zeus anymore either, ha! Go SF go.

      • mannaggia says:

        But I guess you support taxpayer money going towards the myth of global warming.

      • bourgeoisdude says:

        Hmm...surprised you weren't slammed for saying that one. By the way--you aren't alone with your thinking on that. I say we haven't the slightest clue--heck in the sixties we thought the world was [i]freezing[/i]...

      • bourgeoisdude says:

        You stuck on that?

        Actually, that may be one of the hundreds of examples I could think of, but that wasn't one I was thinking of when I mentioned it.

      • dhjdhj says:

        Oh. Never noticed that.

        --->San Francisco Judges are fairly well-known for their numerous bizarre rulings in this country, suffice to say.

      • kungfubeer says:

        San Francisco is the District Federal Court for the bay area, where Oracle is headquartered.

  3. Ah thats dam strange timing for me :|. I have only just started learning the SAP system (which i had never heard of before - use pronto) because I will be working on customization with it when i move to japan in three months.
    Hope this doesnt mean I will loose my new job but i wouldnt want to work for theives either arg

  4. foxfyre says:

    Hmmm...

    Seems to me that this speaks volumes in regards to Oracle's ability to not only manage data, but to provide secure access to its data via authenticated means.

    Unless SAP was accessing data literally from a customer site, all access should have been able to be limited. And not only that, but excessive downloads from any site should have been flagged and monitored purely from a point of an IDS system, let alone via a variety of other metrics and means.

    In fact, managed access of data should be the primary feature of Oracle, which has now demonstrated that it cannot manage its own resources, so everyone, please line up and pay them even more to allow their superior tools to manage Yours!

    It is indeed ironic that Oracle, the application that wants to be an operating system is accusing SAP of "engag(ing) in a systematic program of unfair, unlawful, and deceptive business practices that continues to this day." Especially as this sounds much like what others have felt about Oracle for quite a long time.

  5. AhmetIhsan says:

    Isn't SAP itself an Oracle customer and has access rights to the support systems?

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