Microsoft says that Windows 10 is now on 200 million devices and is its fastest growing OS ever

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NetMarketShare’s latest desktop usage figures suggest that Windows 10 now has nearly 10 percent of the market. And that translates to over 200 million devices, according to the latest figures released today by Microsoft.

Yusuf Mehdi, Microsoft’s corporate vice president, Windows and Devices Group, says "there are more than 200 million monthly active devices around the world running Windows 10" and he reports some other interesting adoption figures about the new OS, which will surprise a lot of people.

According to Mehdi:

Windows 10 adoption is accelerating, with more than 40 percent of new Windows 10 devices becoming active since Black Friday.

In fact, Windows 10 continues to be on the fastest growth trajectory of any version of Windows -- ever -- outpacing Windows 7 by nearly 140 percent and Windows 8 by nearly 400 percent.

We’re seeing increased preference for Windows 10 with consumers. Since Black Friday, US retail PC share for Windows 10 grew 16 points to 62 percent compared to the prior four weeks. Windows 10 mix of PCs rose to 87 percent from 58 percent prior to the holiday.

We are also seeing accelerating and unprecedented demand for Windows 10 among enterprise and education customers. As of today, more than 76 percent of our enterprise customers are in active pilots of Windows 10, and we now have over 22 million devices running Windows 10 across enterprise and education customers.

These figures are interesting because they don’t match what NetMarketShare’s data shows -- which is a clear slowing of growth.

Every version of Windows ever released has, at some point in its history, been described as significantly outselling/shipping more than any other previous version. In 2012, Microsoft’s then-CEO Steve Ballmer said that about Windows 8, and we all know how well that panned out. Still, Windows 10 on 200 million devices does put it way ahead of Windows 7 which, according to information released by Microsoft, had sold 100 million copies in the first six months (making it the fastest selling Windows OS ever... at the time).

Microsoft has now released several sets of numbers for Windows 10. At the end of August it said the new OS was on 75 million devices. This rose to 110 million at the start of October and now, three months later, it’s on 200 million. That doesn’t really strike me as "accelerating", but either way, Windows 10 is clearly doing well.

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160 Responses to Microsoft says that Windows 10 is now on 200 million devices and is its fastest growing OS ever

  1. PC_Tool says:

    *grabs some popcorn*

  2. BoltmanLives says:

    OH look official numbers,,you don't say

    200 Million onto 1 Billion onto 2 Billion onto 3 Billion

    Biggest App store soon and forever ..The Windows Store!

    Each and every Windows 10 system has THE STORE front and center

    Tale of two companies...

    MIcrosoft Rises
    Apple sinks

    Apple is over done toast..Microsoft won

    Everyone leave Appl let it fail..you will feel better

  3. Order_66 says:

    Same old tired unsubstantiated claims by Microsoft just like when Windows 8 was released and we all know what a "sweeping success" that turned out to be.

    • BoltmanLives says:

      It was got your ass onto touch LOL the way of the future

      Now go hit a brick wall

    • roborat says:

      Same old tired unsubstantiated claims by Microsoft ...
      It's an official statement about a precise number. If you have corporate or investing experience, you would know these numbers are verifiable. You just sound bitter.

      • Bob Grant says:

        "200m" is NOT a precise number... Precise would be 201,103,243. (not an accurate number, it's just an example of what precise actually is)

      • TrickyDickie says:

        And Ol' Timmy never fudges the figures, of course...

      • roborat says:

        Can you provide an example of an official figure that was fudged? Thanks.

      • TrickyDickie says:

        All of them. Those slides the prick shows at their events. Lumping figures together to mask poor sales. Need I go on...?

      • roborat says:

        All of them... .
        Why do you even have a disqus account? The first undeclared requirement of having a forum account is to actually know or have experience about something. Otherwise it is pointless.

      • TrickyDickie says:

        To answer back to pricks like you lol

      • roborat says:

        To answer back...
        No you haven't. Worst of all, you replied to a rhetorical question. I am amazed.

      • TrickyDickie says:

        Rhetorical? Lol

      • AdamBoltGC says:

        I agree. Apples figures show sales to retail shops and not sales to the consumer. Read the stock market news and you will see many analysts agree that iPhone sales will fall short of last year so Apple will do a dodgy and flood their suppliers with stock to boost sales figures for this last quarter.

      • PC_Tool says:

        The level of precision is variable depending on the application and requirements.

        Precise does not in any way mean "exact" - in fact, it often means quite the opposite.

        Example: Precise to 14mm (varies within 14mm over/under target).

      • psycros says:

        The Oxford dictionary disagrees. As does common sense.

      • PC_Tool says:

        That's funny.

        Mainly because I know your level of knowledge extends beyond quoting a dictionary.

        I'm pretty sure you've likely gone beyond middle-school science and thus are only too well aware of the difference between being exact and being precise (especially when it comes to a variable pool of data).

        ...but the "Oxford dictionary" disagrees? Well. At least you've got that. /smh

      • roborat says:

        Thanks PC tool. Sometimes I wonder why I bother with the level of discussion going on here.
        200 Million is an exact verifiable statement - meaning if some investor sued Microsoft for a misleading statement MS has to provide hard evidence where that number comes from. An "exact" statement like 200M is not taken lightly and something the lawyers would have been involved before issuing it publicly. This is very basic coporate governance stuff that I think some of you needs to educate yourself. Go google it - jeez.

      • psycros says:

        And you sound hopelessly deluded and desperate to turn a company into a religious icon. None of the facts available from independent third parties support anything Microsoft has said about Windows 10 - in fact they paint a pretty bleak picture.

      • roborat says:

        ...religious icon.
        Hardly. I am just against irrational logic, hysteria, and bias.
        MS issued a statement with a precise number. Some irrational people claim it is made up. I just argued that a company the size of Microsoft (same size as I work in) would have strict controls on what can and cannot be said publicly. All sounds pretty balanced to me.
        Now what's your reason for attacking me instead of the points I put across?

      • barely_normal says:

        You sound like an imbecile, for Homer Simpson knows there is no precise number to be reported, as rough determination and allowances for overzealous reporting are the only things available.

      • Order_66 says:

        A company with a long history of blatant lying to its customers I'm sure their "official statement" holds water with the fanboys as long as it supports their agenda.

      • BoltmanLives says:

        List of "blatant lying".....

      • Order_66 says:

        "All lumia phones will be eligible to upgrade to Windows 10"

        Care to debate this lie by Microsoft?

      • BoltmanLives says:

        Sure which ones did they say were not upgrade-able? OH and is that it for long history?

      • Order_66 says:

        Lumia 530.
        And no not hardly, I just threw one example out there to see how much you struggle with it before I list any more.

      • BoltmanLives says:

        http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/132488-microsoft-windows-10-update-will-your-lumia-device-be-upgraded

        Microsoft’s most popular Windows Phone device is the Lumia 520 with 512MB of RAM. Other Lumia devices with 512MB of RAM include the Lumia 630, Lumia 625, and Lumia 530. Belfiore said Microsoft wants to make Windows 10 available for all 512MB of RAM Windows Phone devices - but features will most likely vary.

      • Order_66 says:

        You posted an article from February 2015, a lot has changed since then and the 530 was axed from the list of eligible devices.

      • Iain Simpson says:

        phones that can be upgraded hardware wise will be eligible for the update, even some older non lumia devices are currently being tested for win 10 upgrades.

      • roborat says:

        Forget the fact that this isn't a precise number value related to corporate performance. Nevertheless, lets play your game.
        The official statement from a twitter feed was all "Lumia Windows Phone 8". I do not believe MS has said they were not going to fulfil that promise. If MS finds that doing so will not improve the experience on older/smaller RAM phones then why would they offer it and break the phobe? They are still eligible but it does not mean it is advisable. I hope you're mature enough to know the difference.

      • Order_66 says:

        The lumia 530 is not eligible, so much for those lumia 530 owners that were lured in with the promise of Windows 10.

      • Iain Simpson says:

        all lumia phones that can be upgraded to windows 10 mobile will be eligible to upgrade dependant on carrier if they push such upgrade.

      • roborat says:

        Can you provide an example where MS provided a precise number value that was later found misleading?
        I'll give you a lifeline and include all Fortune 500 companies in the pool of corporations.
        I'll save you time, you won't find any except probably for those companies that have a civil suit for misinformation.
        Maybe you need to familiarise yourself on corporate governance and the strict requirements on performance information - just like the 200M installed base. Numbers are exact and are only released officially if it can be backed by real data otherwise you are at risk of being sued for providing misleading statements.

      • Order_66 says:

        And exactly who is going to sue them?
        I never said the 200 was false, I will say that they are horribly misleading with their numbers, how many have reverted to 7 or 8? how many were oem? how many licenses purchased online?

        It's all shoddy and deceptive.

      • roborat says:

        And exactly who is going to sue them?

        Just about any MS shareholder / fund management / investor that lost money and wants compensation.

        The official MS statement is ""there are more than 200 million monthly active devices around the world running Windows 10"
        More than 200 Million. How many do you think have the time to revert? Whatever it is, it is immaterial - the number would still be huge and close to the 200 Million mark. Seriously, you guys are just clutching at straws now.

      • Order_66 says:

        You obviously don't visit or know anyone in retail lol
        People have been flooding my store with everything from returns, downgrade rights or reverting to 7 or 8 because they turned on their computer and found 10 installed without their consent and couldn't go back to 7 or 8.

        And I'm sure Microsoft isn't worried about someone angry over posting false or misleading numbers, I'm sure they can just throw some money their way to shut them up if they have to.

      • roborat says:

        There are lawsuits and there is such a thing as corporate reputation and integrity tied to the people running the company. Why would a senior executive who has a career wants his name tarnished? You forget that individuals runs corporations.
        Do you think financial institutions will lend you money, buy your bonds/stock offerings if you lack credibility?

      • Iain Simpson says:

        and what store would that be, and please show some proof of your store being flooded with customers who want their windows 10 being down graded to 7 or 8.

      • Iain Simpson says:

        so in your way of thinking, how many people buy an iPhone just to turn around and sell it for stupid money in north America? maybe that counts as 2 phones on apple's books. Don't be stupid, a legal corporate company can not just spew out stuff that is not based on fact.

      • WP7Mango says:

        The following article explains why there is nothing misleading in these figures -

        http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/microsoft-confirms-windows-10-now-active-over-200-million-devices-monthly

      • Desertsweeper says:

        I am not disputing the numbers but what you fail to grasp is the more important mix within the quoted number. Microsoft do not give meaningful numbers within this 200 Million. How many were freely upgraded? How many were purchased because that's all that was available on a retail purchase? How many are retail vs corporate?

        How many were done by users tired of the endless popup shouting at them from the system tray - sadly a number we will never know?

      • roborat says:

        ...but what you fail to grasp is the more important mix within the quoted.
        No, I didn't fail to grasp. I know it is irrelevant.

      • AdamBoltGC says:

        Why is this information so important. It's never been reported that way before. I can agree it would be interesting to know, but it certainly isn't important.

      • Ejaz says:

        It is important for Microsoft to publish these numbers, because this, store visits, store spends, and such, are the hook that reels in developers. More developers, more apps...more apps, more users...more users, more developers...and so on.

        Absolutely important!

      • AdamBoltGC says:

        But they have given that information. Why does Dessertsweeper think they need a further break down on install numbers?

      • Ejaz says:

        I think he is just curious. He probably had a bad experience with the upgrade process, and sub consciously hates Microsoft. Therefore, he might have preferred to think the adoption numbers soared only because Microsoft made it a free upgrade, and forced it down a lot of people's throats. Therefore he might have wanted to confirm his hypothesis.

        I read somewhere that 40% of the new Windows 10 activations were from new devices. So i really think the free upgrade is only part of the story. OEM's have welcomed the OS well, and so have the users, mostly gamers.

        As far as the developers are concerned, they'd want to know the size of the user base, and how many times users visit the store, and how much money has been spent on the store. They'd also benefit if these numbers were classified geographically and demographically.

        Whether the user upgraded voluntarily, or the update was forced upon them, or they bought a new device is irrelevant to the developers.

      • AdamBoltGC says:

        Exactly. Who is upgrading and why to Windows 10 is irrelevant to the vast majority. How well Windows 10 is performing in market share has far more relevance to a much wider range of people.

      • Ejaz says:

        I am sorry I misunderstood your comment. You were right to ask what you asked. I thought you asked why Microsoft published what it already published. Excuse me.

    • Iain Simpson says:

      all the mac's are probably the ones sitting in all the bestbuys waiting for someone to buy one.

  4. BoltmanLives says:

    Apple Inc.

    NASDAQ: AAPL - Jan 4 12:07 PM EST
    103.84 -1.42 (-1.35%)

    Trouble? Looks like Apple lost BILLIONS in the blink of an eye

    Come on break that 100 mark.

  5. J. Smith says:

    LOL @async123, barely_normal, Bob Grant, all scratching their heads.

    • roborat says:

      they've gone quiet. probably doing a W10 upgrade after realising they would have to pay for it come July.

      • BoltmanLives says:

        Async, BN and BOB grant are stuck in a time warp I collectively see them as cavemen that believe in the "old ways" and do not see the future where cloud is the dominate platform.

        They somehow believe the Earth will stay with on ground networks and single local system even when faced with undeniable proof the opposite is occurring because "it makes sense" and "Saves money and costs".

        They firmly believe the old ways are best, when the entire world is blowing past them. They use keywords like spying , privacy violations and other FUD to push their old ways thinking.

        Perhaps when Windows 10 hits the first BILLION they will come to understand their is no going back. At this rate bu next year that could very well happen. New age of computing was born and verified the moment Windows 10 launched.

      • Bob Grant says:

        'Cloud' or rather 'remote workstation' system design can't work until we get 100% reliable FTL wireless communication systems that can span the entire planet. (and similarly reliable servers) Any form of network connection loss is unacceptable for most uses that don't include 'reading/editing a document' when dealing with that form of system architecture. (and network connectivity is nowhere near reliable enough ANYWHERE for that)

        Now, I don't expect you to agree with what I just wrote, (I know you believe that only Microsoft knows what reality really is) but it's good information for others to read.

      • BoltmanLives says:

        We have enough reliability, you use GMail right? Cloud is here and expanding at an unprecedented rate companies are racing to install Windows 10

      • Desertsweeper says:

        You are very wrong. You have not done your homework. Companies are not "racing" to install Windows 10. They don't need to and are conservative in platform upgrades. Go do some reading on Open Licenses and "software Assurance" fees. Think a little before you open your Microsoft trumpet.

      • BoltmanLives says:

        http://microsoft-news.com/40-of-companies-plan-to-update-to-windows-10-within-the-first-year/

        40% of companies plan to upgrade to Windows 10 within the first year

        Why? Last version no more roll outs ever

        Saves money, saves training , interfaces with the Azure..the future

        40% plan by July...40%

      • Desertsweeper says:

        Seriously! Because the vendor Microsoft says this it is true??? As I said, do your homework. Try independent sources like Gartner and Forbes. Their figures show a very different picture. Most corporates will not move to Windows 10 until 2018 or later.

      • Driven says:

        I want 2 of whatever your smoking/taking/drinking.... been needing a good fantasy trip.

      • barely_normal says:

        So many errors...too many to tackle for one post...begin with the fact that "cloud" is NOT a platform, it is a construct of the mind.

        What is not wrong is BS.

        It's alright, however you see us, because I see you as a ranting fool, much like that Englishman spoken of in the same sentence as the mad dogs.

      • BoltmanLives says:

        Knew I could drag the cavemen back in.

      • async2013 says:

        Actually as microsoft have found for themselves and embracing open source..I was way ahead of the ball Buttman

      • Bob Grant says:

        Sales numbers (that still have no details as to how they were arrived at) would never be cause for me to install spyware onto my system. (even if it is for free)

    • Bob Grant says:

      About what? They still have yet to tell anyone how they come up with those numbers. (and that is just as important as the numbers themselves)

      • PC_Tool says:

        "there are more than 200 million monthly active devices around the world running Windows 10"

        This isn't rocket science, guys.

        Translation: over a period of ~30 days ending the 4th of Jan, 200-million unique hardware IDs were cataloged running Windows 10.

        It really is that simple.

        Got your "explanations" as to why the number isn't representative of reality? Ready? Set? Go!

      • J. Smith says:

        As if Microsoft servers are not able to make out how many millions of windows 10 devices are hitting them to check for updates etc. on a daily basis

      • PC_Tool says:

        A single "exact" measurement in a variable pool of data such as this would not be worthwhile - as the very next moment the number would be completely different and your "exact" measurement is history.

        "over a period of 30 days" allows for rises and falls, and over the period of several months will show trending data that can be used to extrapolate possible future states.

    • async2013 says:

      About what? How Microsoft spin to the gullible?

  6. BoltmanLives says:

    So so far Microsoft has...

    1. Fastest growing Operating system ever (Won that several times)

    2. Most Popular piece of software ever written (Office 365)

    3. Inspired the and made happen the completely crazy idea of a computer on every single desk in the world.

    4.Quietest place on the planet ( unimaginably quiet -20.35 dBA)

    WOW!

    • TechLvr says:

      5. 1.7% smartphone market share

      6. Xbox One outsold by PS4 2-1

      7. Laid off the most workers in the last 3 years of any tech company.

      8. Most vulnerabilities in 2015.

      9. Fallen behind old rivals IBM and Apple...

      http://fortune.com/2015/06/13/fortune-500-tech/

      • psycros says:

        Don't forget these latest Windows 10 figures, which are complete fabrications as proven by literally every analysis available. I suppose it makes sense that Microsoft's worshipers lie to themselves so frequently since Microsoft itself does nothing but lie to the public. Pretty sad.

      • WP7Mango says:

        Most analysis don't seem to include the facts. Microsoft have now confirmed two things -

        1. Xbox One is included in the 200 million figure.

        2. Microsoft have explained what they mean by active users - http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/microsoft-confirms-windows-10-now-active-over-200-million-devices-monthly

        There is nothing to indicate that these figures are fabrications.

      • AdamBoltGC says:

        So which other sites apart from Netmatket Share show this fabrication? Please note that most sites show just PC usage and don't include XBox or mobile in their calculations. Stat counter currently shows Win 10 at approx 13% which is around 200 million devices. So the figures MSFT announced are more than believable.
        If you are working on Netmatket Shares figures I hope you know that they reported Win 7 had less than 15% market share 14 months after release. Windows 10 will annihilate these figures.

      • brain out says:

        They are lies because they include disparate and UNSOLD items. Tells you the company has zero integrity, and its fanboys are like DT fanboys, devoid of analytical skill and discernment, with less than zero integrity. Pox on them all.

        Add to that the hitlerian EULA and it's never ever ever ever again buy anything from MSFT.

      • AdamBoltGC says:

        Even if what you say is true (Which it isn't), Apple do the same thing when they do their financial reporting. It's already reported that Apple's supply chain is getting ready to reduce supply by over 30% for this quarter. This is because Apple flooded their suppliers with stock at the end of the year so that when they do their earning reports for the last quarter it will show growth for the iPhone 6S/6S Plus, even though there has actually been a slow down with consumer demand for these devices.
        So by your analogy above, you won't by an Apple product either because of the way they do their reporting. Please don't tell me you own an Apple product or you have just shown yourself as a bit of a hypocrite.

      • brain out says:

        No, APPLE DOES NOT DO THE SAME THING. There is nothing like aka.ms/msa in history.

        And you have zero integrity for ASSuming that valid criticism against MSFT a) is somehow less valid because others do that (which, if they did, still proves you have not integrity because your argument is that two wrongs make a right and b) YOU DON'T INVESTIGATE the claims.

        For if you had, you'd know how vile Paragraph 3 of aka.ms/msa is. So you betray yourself as someone who habitually lies, whose posts should be disregarded.

      • AdamBoltGC says:

        What the hell does that paragraph have to do with the way MSFT do their reporting?? I'll quote you just so you know what I was responding to "They are lies because they include disparate and UNSOLD items"
        I never mentioned anything about MSFT's EULA, only about their reporting... which you are wrong on!

      • WP7Mango says:

        Brain Out is a troll. His full username is Brain Out Of Order (like a broken toilet).

      • WP7Mango says:

        No, it's you who is lying because they DON'T include unsold items. Pox on you, you sad retarded troll.

      • brain out says:

        TO OTHERS: notice how a liar has to use the defense mechanism of projection onto others. Here, the disclosure is 200 million DEVICES. Not, users. Not, sold. Because, the number of UNSOLD when added to sold or downloaded, is bigger. To mask what actually sold, between the beginning of October, when the same measure was 110 million.

        So, extra devices were manufactured and activated all around the world, now including Xbox (which is not a computer, so not related, but again bloats the numbers). So now those are added, irrespective of whether sold.

        Clearly.

        But ugly Win10 fanboys, like dippy Donald Trump supporters, have to jump on any criticism because they KNOW the numbers spouted by lying MSFT, are fabrications, sleight of hand. And they are sooo insecure, just like Trump and his supporters, that they have to tout big number to say 'I am good'.

        Honey, if you have to SAY you are good, you are not.

      • WP7Mango says:

        Keep spouting the lies and FUD, you clueless lying troll.

      • brain out says:

        Ahhh, ad hominem, the last refuge of the defeated.

      • WP7Mango says:

        ...says the person who said "Pox on them all".

      • brain out says:

        My insults are always preceded by substance. Yours are not.

      • WP7Mango says:

        I doubt that you have managed to write anything of substance, ever. Everything you have written so far has been completely baseless, fabricated nonsense. But your insults are pretty dull and harmless, so at least there is no risk of anyone taking offense! ;-)

      • brain out says:

        TO OTHERS: notice how the liar can't reply with substance, so resorts to ad hominem. This is tactic #2 in taqiyya, an Arabic word for lying about your religion to make it look good. The five tactics are:

        1. Denial of evidence, no matter how overwhelming.
        2. Divert by irrelevancy -- especially, by focusing on the REFUTER so that the evidence he presented, is sidelined.
        3. Play the Victim (in order to keep attacking).
        4. Blame the Enemy (accusing the enemy of doing what YOU are doing, psychological defense mechanism of projection).
        5. Exploit Cognitive Dissonance (fancy term for 'double-talk', as shown in the Twilight Zone Episode 'To Serve Man').

      • WP7Mango says:

        TO YOU (because nobody else is interested): notice how YOU, the liar, can't reply with substance, so you resort to ad hominem. This is tactic #2 in taqiyya, an Arabic word for lying about your religion to make it look good. The five tactics are:

        1. Denial of evidence, no matter how overwhelming.
        2. Divert by irrelevancy -- especially, by focusing on the REFUTER so that the evidence he presented, is sidelined.
        3. Play the Victim (in order to keep attacking).
        4. Blame the Enemy (accusing the enemy of doing what YOU are doing, psychological defense mechanism of projection).
        5. Exploit Cognitive Dissonance (fancy term for 'double-talk', as shown in the Twilight Zone Episode 'To Serve Man').

        :-)

      • brain out says:

        TO OTHERS: notice how the liar bristles, and thus proves the accusation accurate. If you're not guilty, you don't take offense. If you're not religious, you don't care if something you like is insulted.

      • WP7Mango says:

        TO YOU (because, once again, nobody else gives two shits): notice how you, the liar, bristles, and thus proves the accusation accurate.

        "If you're not guilty, you don't take offense."

        I'm not taking offense, therefore I'm not guilty.

        "you don't care if something you like is insulted".

        Correct - I don't care. I'm just being mildly entertained by your fantastical nonsense! ;-)

      • AdamBoltGC says:

        Who's lying now. Active users and unsold devices when added together would actually be a higher number, not less.
        MSFT have always stated they want 1 Billion devices on Windows 10 and not just C's XBOX was included in their first figures because te Win 10 update wasn't available then.
        Seriously, don't go around calling other people kiars when your facts are completely UNTRUE. I know, the truth hurts doesn't it.

    • BoltmanLives says:

      Lame response below....

      • TechLvr says:

        No lamest repose so far is...

        "4.Quietest place on the planet ( unimaginably quiet -20.35 dBA)"

        Why did you not have a #5 "Cleanest bathrooms on the West Coast" ???

    • barely_normal says:

      I assume that #4 above refers to the space between your ears.

  7. GS5 says:

    Well they said that Windows 10 is on 200 million devices, but they didn't say if those devices have been sold yet :-)

    • BoltmanLives says:

      Installed and ACTIVATED

      • barely_normal says:

        Citation?

      • BoltmanLives says:

        As of today, there are more than 200 million monthly active devices around the world running Windows 10.

      • barely_normal says:

        Look up CITATION, then get back to me. Then you can give an exact definition of how it is determined that a Windows Last piece of hardware is activated. [In this context, activated means working and using a Microsoft assigned license key, not the millions of unlicensed and pirated uses.]

      • BoltmanLives says:

        LOL no

      • TechLvr says:

        Your's is not a citation. Also it includes NON-PC devices.

        It is a total joke really. Update Xbox One and say its running Windows 10. What determines that a version number? How many Xbox One users even know they are running "Windows 10"?? less than 1% of 1%?

        The really bizarre part of all of this they have not made 1 penny off of Windows 10 since they are all updates (Xbox) or upgrades (PC/Phone). This has to be the biggest exercise in loss leader yet.

      • BoltmanLives says:

        Windows Store is doing fine,,need Windows 10 for it. (Or 8)

      • barely_normal says:

        First, thanks for taking the time to retrieve this. Second, I wonder why this was not more widely disseminated, as it would have avoided lots of pissing and moaning by many - it seems this is usually the case with MS, not putting out information at the right time. Also shows that there is no continuity within the MS ranks, or the writer of the article responded to would have gotten the answer from whomever was spoken to.

        People on this forum seem to think I am living with head in sand, but I am not. I know Windows Last will continue on, and may become usable to those who now have concerns, but anyone giving full-throated support to it

        at this point in time, or stating that it is good enough to stand as a finished product ARE delusional.

      • WP7Mango says:

        "I know Windows Last will continue on, and may become usable to those who now have concerns, but anyone giving full-throated support to it at this point in time, or stating that it is good enough to stand as a finished product ARE delusional"

        Conversely, it can be argued that this who do give it full support do so because it's working fine for them and is perfectly usable, and those who think it's not good enough to stand as a finished products are delusional.

      • brain out says:

        Activated doesn't mean SOLD.

  8. runningnak3d says:

    Hmmm, using Microsoft logic, Linux is the most popular "operating system" on the planet! If you count all the devices that run Linux -- WHOA! MS is just a drop in the bucket.

    How about if we stick to just desktop / laptop, or just tablet, or just phone because trust me, you MS fan boys don't want to use these new rules, you will lose -- hugely.

    • roborat says:

      Linux is the most popular operating system ...
      There's a sentence you don't see everyday.

      • Prestaeus says:

        Android is Linux...

      • roborat says:

        LOL. No it isn't. You're making hard core Linux nerds cringe.

      • PC_Tool says:

        The Android kernel is based on the Linux kernel. That's all it takes for many folks to call it "Linux".

        (Especially when they are trying to explain away numbers like the above to justify the irrational emotional state it puts them in.)

      • Tulir293 says:

        Windows isn't used anywhere except PCs. Linux is used pretty much everywhere else. Most servers and supercomputers use Linux. Modern cars (that are at least slightly smart) use Linux. Android uses a modified version of Linux.

      • roborat says:

        I'll give you a chance to do a simple google to fact check every single sentence you just typed there.
        jesuschrist! embedded windows, windows server, unix/bsd, etc. for the love of god help me!!!

  9. nimbus says:

    it's free right? who doesn't like free stuff? is it even worth boasting about? I know loads of people who would take terribily low quality TV if it were free and guess what the tv is still terrible quality but more people have it now... so what have we proved? People like free stuff!! duh.

    • BoltmanLives says:

      Its more than "free" it the belief in better. Think about it .... in under 5 months people have entrusted the Operating System upgrade which in the past was either avoided or maybe a trip to geek squad. SO again 200 MILLION people CHOSE to install 10 for a better tomorrow over beloved Windows 7..that is UNPRECIDENTED in history. Crazy as in amazing. Windows 10 is HOT!

      • barely_normal says:

        Still delusional and unable to spell I see...

      • Desertsweeper says:

        200 Million people did NOT choose to install Windows 10. It ships on new retail computers. And many users finally gave in to Microsoft pressure via endless badgering from their system trays. Corporate computers from the major vendors still ship with Windows 7 pro, or at least the option to downgrade to that version. That says it all.

    • roborat says:

      If you have read the article or even thought about where an increasing install base would have come, you would have realised that some of these are new systems purchased recently and not entirely free.
      You asked what it proves? It proved the W10 naysayers wrong.

      • Desertsweeper says:

        Nope it doesn't prove much. Since no real figures are given for free-upgrades vs new-system purchases you cannot claim the "naysayers" wrong. Besides, when a retail purchase does not give you the option but to have WinX that is not exactly a choice - it a default buy, determined by the vendor not the buyer.

      • roborat says:

        The headline is about Win 10 on 200 Million devices. People were talking about W10 slowing down. The number refutes it. Not sure what you're arguing about.

      • brain out says:

        Right. If another 100 million devices were MADE but not sold, then the number cited using the cagey language in the article, would still be the same.

      • AdamBoltGC says:

        Default Buy???... So let me understand what you are saying... Everyone should still be on XP because MSFT and OEM's shouldn't have sold NEW devices with the latest Windows 10 OS because that's not what the consumers wanted???.... So you really think consumers would be buying new devices if they WEREN'T running Windows 10 and that they would have sold more devices if they were running an older OS... An OS that didn't take full advantage of some of the new functionality built into their new devices built for Windows 10???
        You should be in politics if you think you can argue that point.

      • Desertsweeper says:

        Did I say that everyone should still be on XP? Think please. My point is simply that a person walks in and buys a computer. It is pre-loaded with Windows 10 by the oem. They did not choose it - it just comes with it. So related back to the topic of this article - how many of the "200" million were actually choices? How many of that figure were "default" buys. Nothing more, nothing less.

      • WP7Mango says:

        What difference does it make to the numbers that are active?

      • AdamBoltGC says:

        My question to you was what the hell is a default buy???? People will buy the device because their device runs Windows 10 and their device makes full use of Windows 10 capabilities. Its got absolutely nothing to do for 99.9% of people that they are unwillingly forced into buying their device with Windows 10 because it is the default OS.
        If they didn't want Windows 10 they could buy a million other computers running Windows 7, or Windows 8 or OS-X, or even build their own PC. OEM's and MSFT aren't stupid. They wont sell a new PC with an outdated OS or they would have to fire sale the stock to make it move.
        You really do seem to be clutching at straws to show Windows 10 isn't as popular as it actual is.

  10. 1DaveN says:

    If I had a list of the regular BN posters who have responded to this article, I could write their posts myself, despite having made the admirably intelligent decision to not read even one of them.

  11. soorena776 says:

    These stupid MS haters... As if Apple, Google or Facebook are any different shit than what MS is.

  12. sgrandin says:

    Christmas sales?

  13. WP7Mango says:

    Wayne, the 200 million now includes Xbox One devices.

  14. johnusa says:

    Ha ha ha, yeah right.
    And of course the pope is Catholic.
    I think Microsoft is just inhaling too much ether.

  15. Bryan Mills says:

    Its adoption rate is pretty slow when you consider that it's a free upgrade for Windows 7 and 8 users. The installation and upgrade process is a total disaster on many computers. They are also getting a reputation as being an adware/spyware OS, which is far worse than just being a crappy OS. People are leaving in droves for Mac, mobile, and Linux. Donald Trump should add this to his list of things to fix and make Mexico pay for it. At least the Xbox is still doing well.

    • AdamBoltGC says:

      You do realize Windows 7 held less than 15% market share after 14 months from it's release and it took nearly 4 years for it to over take XP. Windows 7 was offered as a $49.00 upgrade at a time when even Apple were charging to upgrade their OS which was $29.00, so a whole difference of $20.00. Hardly a stumbling point for many to upgrade from an old OS like XP or a dog of an OS like Vista.

  16. Desertsweeper says:

    Happily Joined or coerced? "BoltmanLives" trumpets: "Think about it .... in under 5 months people have entrusted the
    Operating System upgrade which in the past was either avoided or maybe a
    trip to geek squad. SO again 200 MILLION people CHOSE to install 10
    for a better tomorrow over beloved Windows 7". As an IT consultant not a day goes by without people calling me to complain about being "forced" to upgrade to Windows 10. They did not willingly choose to do the upgrade. Various MS "patches" have pushed and cajoled users into the upgrade. They faithfully install the MS updates...that include "forceware" 'patches' that push users harder and harder into the upgrade. I wonder how many of the "200 Million" adopters actually actively wanted to go Windows 10 - and how many mistakenly clicked on that lowr-right-hand-corner balloon that sent them down a one-way street to joining the other 200 Million users?

    • brain out says:

      It's not even 200 million users. It's DEVICES. So think: how many devices does one person have? And WHICH of the devices remain unsold? I bet, most of them.

      • AdamBoltGC says:

        What do you mean by this??? I have two new 2 in 1 devices with Windows 10 that I purchased in the Christmas sales. These devices are currently unopened and not activated and won't be until later this year when they are given out as birthday presents.. These devices are not currently counted in the 200 million active devices reported by MSFT.
        Just so you are clear on this, MSFT is not reporting on the number of licences sold to OEM's, so wether or not a device is sold or not sold is irrelevant in this latest report.
        I seriously don't understand why you keep bringing this up even though you have been shown time and time again what you are saying is WRONG!
        .
        Mind you, I'd like to see MSFT give these figures of active users, plus add in licences sold (Licences sold is how they reported Windows 8)... Then we might actually see figures closer to 300 million for Windows 10... Ahhh, wouldn't that be wonderful to show to all the naysayers :-)

  17. Desertsweeper says:

    What is interesting
    about the quoted statistic is that it does not reveal the crucial Windows 10
    adoption rate of Business vs Retail. The big money for MS is in the "Open License" program used by the corporate world. These licenses are not
    directly eligible for the “free upgrade” – a company must pay a “software
    assurance” fee to avail of the new platform. Boltman "lives" in a Windows
    ‘home-edition’ fantasy-land cloud of retail users. Big license shops are only
    starting to evaluate Windows 8 now...and employ people to figure out ways of
    blocking the coercive upgrade strategy MS is using for their new operating
    system. For good reasons, corporate IT strategies are conservative using a
    "previous-generation" strategy to leverage a trusted proven platform.
    MS is actively trying to get these large corporates to jump the disaster that
    was Win8, hoping they have forgotten the littered landscape of previous
    disasters like “Millennium Edition” and to some extent Vista. What I see happening
    is exactly the opposite. Most large corps I work with are actively opposing the
    MS push with well-placed skepticism. As always, they will wait-and-see for a
    year or two. Then start trials. Gartner research shows strong resilience in the
    corporate world with upgrades happening in several years at best. The big
    corporate upgrade will only come in 2020 when support for Windows 7 ends, just as it did for WinXP/Server2003 last year.

  18. brain out says:

    "200 million monthly active devices"? What does it mean monthly active? Only active once a month? Not distinguishing between sold and unsold?

    Or are they counting all the FORCED installs of Win10 which don't work, and THOSE deploy monthly?

    AND WHAT ABOUT THE LIE OF 110 million which was the same at the beginning of October and end of October, and since? And what about the RUMORS of the same number as 200 million? So now MSFT, having nothing else, just makes this up?

    HOW MANY ARE UNSOLD? Not said.

    BASTA. Liars. Sick of it. Sick of MSFT. No more.

  19. pforbes says:

    The acceptance of Windows 10 in the USA has only reached 8,34 %, as you may see in this graph:

    http://gs.statcounter.com/#desktop-os-US-monthly-201507-201512-bar

    • AdamBoltGC says:

      Nope, you are reading the graph wrong. That is the average over the time span you have entered and Windows 10 didn't come out until the end of July so it should be Aug to Dec which puts the average usage at 10%.
      The graph you need for current usage is to use that bar graph from Dec to Dec or use the line graph http://gs.statcounter.com/#desktop-os-US-monthly-201512-201512
      So actually Windows 10 is doing incredibly well. Sorry to burst your bubble.

      • pforbes says:

        The most recent graphic reflects the current move for all OS. Given that updates have been forced it's not rare that in the first months the growth rate were higher. But users are detecting more and more every day that their "update" to Windows 10 really meant a "downgrade" for their own needs, and therefore the "update" tendence is everyday lower and even in many forums people repeatedly search for methods to avoid being "downgraded to abomination".

      • AdamBoltGC says:

        Yes and the graph undoubtedly shows a big move to Windows 10, wether you believe it or not.
        I'm sorry that you don't like Windows 10... and I get that. MSFT could have done things better with the way they are pushing the upgrade. However you have to face the facts.
        1) You don't own the OS and only own a license so MSFT have every right to do what they are doing with their OS
        2) MSFT are offering a free upgrade because they don't want what happened in the past with a fragmentation of the OS . Their end game is get 1 billion devices on Windows 10, so of course they are going to be aggressively pushing the upgrade.
        3) Windows 10 is seeing a resurgence of new PC's being sold and even if the uptake for upgrades is slow (Which it's not) Windows 10 will become the most widely used OS in a quicker tine period than it took Windows 7 ro become the no. 1 OS (It took Windows 7 approx 4 years)
        4) The majority of the population that have moved to Windows 10 like the OS and are staying on it, hence Windows 10 is growing at a greater rate than any OS before it.

        I'm sure MSFT realise they are upsetting a minority that don't want to upgrade, however at the end of the day I'm also sure that MSFT would be willing to take that risk of upsetting the minority by getting the majority to use Windows 10 as it makes business sense.

        As for the upgrade, even if you unwittingly upgraded to Windows 10, and you don't like it, you can downgrade again (I know there are exceptions to this) . Alternatively, if you really don't like what MSFT are doing then you can vote with your feet and move to a different OS.

        Like it or not you will have to face the fact that Windows 10 is fast on its way to becoming the dominant OS on PC's and based on current rates MSFT will get to their 1 billion devices running Windows 10 within 3 years.

    • AdamBoltGC says:

      Another interesting point with the line graph, it shows that since the initial massive uptake of around 5.4% in the 1st few weeks Windows 10 has been increasing at roughly 1.6% per month. At this rate considering Windows 10 basically has 12% of the market at the end of Dec it would take just over 4.5 years to reach 100% marketshare of all OS's. Seeing that MSFT are looking for Windows 10 on 1 Billion devices, lets be fair and say that out of those billion devices there will be 90% to PC's and 10% to other Windows devices. So MSFT need to get to 900 million PC's or approx. 60% market share of the estimated 1.5 billion PC's. Seeing they already have 12% at the end of Dec and are growing at 1.6% per month it will take 2.5 years to get to where MSFT wants to be, so well within the 3 years MSFT is aiming for... That is of course if MSFT can continue to grow at the rate they currently are.
      If the rumours of a Surface phone is true and it revolutionises the mobile market as we see it now, then this will certainly help drive Windows 10 on this trajectory... If Windows 10 mobile fails, then MSFT might have a problem.
      It is definitely going to be interesting to see where things sit at the end of next year when Apple bring out their iPhone 7 and wether or not we see the Surface phone.
      At this point in time it's to early to call how Windows 10 will do in the long run as we haven't seen what MSFT will do at the end of the free upgrade period. Will they continue it or will they hold fast... If they hold fast, will that then in turn see a flood of people upgrading to Windows 10???... Ah, sometimes I wish I had a crystal ball! :-)

  20. Umina says:

    Every computer running windows contains nagware enticing people to push the button and get the free upgrade and all they have is 200 million daring or stupid souls who have succumbed to the pressure? These people can't even fix text highlighting in OneNote 2016, have failed to fix their networking issues for almost 30 years, can get install programs to actually work (contact support and the FIRST solution is always, "Can you uninstall and reinstall please", destroy what relationships they once had with developers (Technet), and still can't figure out how to properly implement Sections in Word Documents. No wonder there is a movement among the young to abandon tech. It's simply too frustrating to deal with companies run by lawyers and marketing types, and expect a useful product that actually works. Microsoft's advertising, which is typically, "everything you had before and more" generally applies to bugs not features (ie OneNote text highlighting, Sections in Word etc...) I think it might be time for Congress to review the Monopoly laws and replace them with a government function related to Product Usability Certification - which would actually test proposed products to ensure they meet their own specifications and hype.

  21. AdamBoltGC says:

    I wonder if BetaNews will write about how IDC's new report shows that Win 10 is now clearly the 2nd most used OS on PC's. Bit of bad luck really for all those who's fantasy it is to see that Win 10 fails.

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