Huawei embraces deepin Linux as Microsoft Windows 10 future remains uncertain

Huawei makes some of the best laptops around -- the company actually puts Apple's design team to shame. This focus on elegance cannot be said for many other Windows PC manufacturers, as they often just set their sights on cutting corners to keep prices down.

And that is why Donald Trump's xenophobic attacks on Huawei are so tragic. Huawei's computers and smartphones are wonderful, but with uncertainty about access to Windows and proper Android (with Google apps), consumers are correct to be a bit concerned.

Thankfully, Huawei has no plans to have its success be dependent to the actions of one country. For instance, the company has already announced HarmonyOS -- an intriguing Android alternative. Now, Huawei is looking beyond mobile and making sure its laptop business can survive without dependence on Microsoft or Windows 10.

As you can expect, Huawei is doing this by embracing Linux! More specifically, the Chinese company is turning to an excellent Linux distribution that is developed in its home country of China -- deepin. This is huge news, and a big blow to Microsoft. Look, 5 or 10 years ago, a PC manufacturer would be dead without access to Windows. These days, however, Linux largely removes that stranglehold.

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Over on Vmall.com, a Huawei web store that only ships within China (sorry, fellow Americans), three of Huawei's laptops can be had with deepin installed instead of Windows 10. Those computers are the Huawei MateBook 13, MateBook 14, and MateBook X Pro. This is exciting, as one of the prettiest Linux-based operating systems (deepin) is coming pre-installed on some very elegant hardware. And yes, these computers cost less than the Windows versions.

Should consumers hope that Huawei drops Windows entirely and only offers Linux-based operating systems? No, because choice is good and Windows 10 isn't totally bad. In fact, some people find Microsoft's latest operating system to be quite good. However, any company operating outside of the USA (not only China) should be prepared with a backup plan. As long as any president of the USA can arbitrarily restrict access to American technology, which could potentially ruin a foreign company, it is foolish to not have an alternative ready to go.

Would you buy a Huawei laptop pre-loaded with Linux if it was sold in the USA? Please tell me in the comments below.

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78 Responses to Huawei embraces deepin Linux as Microsoft Windows 10 future remains uncertain

  1. Imnotchuck Norris says:

    Xenophobic? When a concern over security happens, that is not being xenophobic. Concerns over Huawei go back to the Obama administration. In fact in 2012 under Obama, Congress looked to first ban Huawei products from the US. Get your facts strait before your political bias.

    • Tom Bouwer says:

      Exactly correct, but when some uneducated knowledgeable being gets his mind set on a hate he cannot let go, and the only hate here in this is the writer of the article, should get fired

      • anchovylover says:

        "some uneducated knowledgeable being"

        Um, what? A person can't be both at the same time. That's an oxymoron.

    • Adrian S says:

      But he is xenophobic and has a mind of a child,
      Horrid person, i really thought the u.s had a bit more sense than to vote him in.

    • Hector MA says:

      A concern over security, USA always feed on fear and paranoia. Last person who invaded that country was Pancho Villa more than a hundread years ago. You're a country that funds terrorism and supports coups all over the world and you have a concern over security, pfff.

      • anchovylover says:

        The U.S needs an enemy and has done since WW2. It's how the military–industrial complex survives. The citizens need to live in fear to justify the staggering depths of resources that go to the military.
        President Eisenhower knew, he saw it coming.

    • Anne Smith says:

      That's right, Huawei stole ALL of America's DNA! LOLOLOL!

  2. SoundMix says:

    No sane person would knowingly buy anything Huawei...unless they live in China.

    • Adrian S says:

      Better than the stuff Apple puts out and cheaper, certainly better than Samsung as well.

      I live in the Uk, so why should I trust companies based in the U.S any more than in China?
      Should I trust Windows 10? Ms already grabs data from it, is there any back doors for N.S.A to have access, the same with Android, IOS or MAC OS? We just don't know.

    • Anne Smith says:

      Huawei is a good and well liked brand that happens to be under attack by the Trump administration.

      Installing Linux on their products instead of Windows shot them up 30 points in my estimation - especially when it comes to whose laptops I would buy.

      And deepin is a decent brand of Linux.

      Huawei has advanced into the category of laptops I would buy, and that's a small select group.

  3. truthbetold says:

    "Would you buy a Huawei laptop pre-loaded with Linux if it was sold in the USA?"
    Seriously? If you bought it and gave it to me, I still wouldn't use anything made by Huawei.

  4. TechFan says:

    Sigh....a 'fake news' article.

      • TechFan says:

        Injecting personal opinion to manipulate the audience.

        "And that is why Donald Trump's xenophobic attacks on Huawei are so tragic." You used two buzz words here 'xenophobic' and 'attacks' - yet you probably aren't a subject expert or have access to the same stuff Obama and Trump have.

        "As long as any president of the USA can arbitrarily restrict access to American technology" You used the buzz word 'arbitrarily' to make it should like there was no logic behind it, doing it just because he can.

        Don't get me wrong Brian, opinions are good. I don't agree with them, but good.

      • Enis C. Philpott says:

        People really gotta lighten up: We know what to expect from Brian Fagioli, so why all the accusations? Besides, if someone is so weak-minded as to devour opinions without considering what's really being said, then the world certainly shouldn't revolve around that. Fake news or not—who cares. I don't need brain-dead Silicon Valley chaperones and their legions of so-called "A.I." bots telling me what is or isn't real. We all have a right to choose what to believe.

      • pmdci says:

        Spot on. We all know Brian doesn't have the most polished writing stile and relies on click-baits.

        Yet we're all here.

        Live and let live.

      • Anne Smith says:

        Donald Trump's antics are tragic alright - unless they bring down Microsoft.

  5. PenguinJoe says:

    Nope. Because I can simply get it in Canada totally bypassing political bs.

  6. TD says:

    "Would you buy a Huawei laptop pre-loaded with Linux?"

    Purchasing an Huawei laptop would depend on the price; the day of me buying $1000 plus laptops are over. Yeah, why not.... everything else in our home is made in China. lol

    By the way...

    Why is United States dependent on Nokia and Ericsson, for 5G technology? What happen to Motorola? Chicago Tribune 2014 article, "What Happened to Motorola" -- gives a timeline on how and why Motorola ultimately lost it dominance in the telecom industry. The operative word is, lost.

  7. damianpostigo says:

    does anyone even remember Edward Snowden and his leak documents. how to we know what the US government is doing with your information. Remember Most things being made comes from china that includes android and Iphones. Most of the time we never know what backdoors are put in to any product its above and behind the average use to even know were to start to look.

    Huawei is from china we don't trust them other products are from china why do you trust them? no one has ever proven Huawei to be spying on anyone. Point I'm making if we don't trust Huawei then we shouldn't trust anything being made in china.

    • anchovylover says:

      "Point I'm making if we don't trust Huawei then we shouldn't trust anything being made in china"

      You can't compare tech goods with potential security issues with cheap plastic crap and clothes you buy at Walmart.

      • brightblur says:

        Well... Except for consumable goods coming from China. Some toys in the past have also been manufactured with dubious ingredients. . So yes we can make a fair and loose comparison with items coming from China

  8. Morrolan says:

    Microsoft Windows 10 future remains uncertain??? All of our futures are uncertain...

    • Brian is speaking of Huawei’s access to Windows and/or Android. Both technologies require an export license to be offered to overseas customers. The U.S. government recently blocked Huawei’s access to Android and other U.S. tech for a short period. Huawei’s has reason to be concerned.

      • MJ says:

        And China buys so many licenses for Microsoft products? Even Microsoft knows most of the illegal copies of their software are in China. IMO just cut China off all together they will be fine with all the stolen technology/IP. As for Android, IMO no company should be able to sell an operating system based on open source code.

      • Slavic says:

        If China will be cut off all updates for Windows, Android and US-origin anti-malware, they will feel less that fine. I don't predict that it will happen for sure, but it's still a possible option from Trump.

      • You've completely misunderstood all of the open source licensing then. Basically you are allowed to use, modify , distribute and even sell software based on open source code. Usually there are caveats requiring you to make all of your added code open-source as well but not always.

        I am betting you won't work your 40 hours a week for free. Why should some company, small or large, create, distribute and support an operating system for free then? Android might be open source but it doesn't work right out of the tin. There is quite a bit of work tweaking it, adding bits to it and then getting it all debugged for a given piece of hardware. Not to mention the ongoing patches and support that people will be wanting.

      • MJ says:

        Its not that I misunderstand the current use of open source & I did say IMO. I just feel open source should be free period. If someone or a company wants to make a profit off of their hard work maybe they should write their own OS instead of using someone else's work. Again its just my opinion.

      • pmdci says:

        It is not the fact that it is open source that means people/orgs can/cannot profit from it. It is the licensing employed. Look for GNU 2, GNU 3, BSD License, MIT License, etc (even Creative Commons, for instance). They are all different.

      • MJ says:

        Your right, no one said everyone illegally uses open source code as most follow the licensing guidelines. I just said (IMO) open source should be free to use & no one should be allowed to profit off it. Use it for education or situations where the cost of the OS is prohibitive or whatever, but at no time should ANY company/individual be allowed to put open source code in a product they sell. Lets call it a pipe dream opinion and serious dislike of the current script kiddie mentality.

      • pmdci says:

        If you think open source should be free to use and no one should be allowed to profit of it, you are banging on the wrong key.

        It is not the nature of open source per say that is contrary to your opinion, it is the license the OS software in question is employing.

        Just release the software with the right license then which specifies that while it is free to use and modify. no one should be allowed to profit from it.

        And that is no pipe dream, actually. In fairness I have released something under Creative Commons (not software, but a set of images) which does not allow for people to profit from it.

      • If you had your wish then there wouldn't be much of an open source ecosystem. Many of the biggest open source projects have for-profit companies contributing their people and their money to them. A lot of the open source projects are actually sponsored by or were created by for-profit companies in the first place.

        Truly free software should be free to use in anyway you wish.

      • Anne Smith says:

        It doesn't matter what the licensing says if you can't BUY it to begin with.

        AND, open source explicitly means, there ARE no licenses OR restrictions. Learn how to read, then go back to school, Film! Oh, I mean, go back to filming! You don't know ANYTHING with a handle like that.

      • 💡Thos. Edison💡 says:

        True, but I doubt that China is concerned with adhering to open-source terms.

      • Anne Smith says:

        I believe that the gist of the above is that the U.S. government just made it illegal for any country that doesn't genuflect to President Trump to do business in the U.S., which means, the world won't be buying Windows 10, and they'll have to turn to Linux, which means - YES! - the end of needing to mess with Windows.

      • 💡Thos. Edison💡 says:

        He wrote the title as if we had reason to be concerned - not Huawei. He knew what he was doing and the reaction he'd get.

      • pmdci says:

        Click-baiting is the reaction.

        Well done to everyone involved.

      • Well if you were a Huawei owner and could not get any more updates...

      • 💡Thos. Edison💡 says:

        It's my understanding (which could be wrong) that those who currently own a Huawei Android device will be allowed to get updates.

      • Sorry for the double reply but I just was reading this on another site:

        "Huawei unveils its new 5G flagship phone without Google-licensed apps"

        Seems there is already some impact for potential Huawei customers to be worrying about.

      • 💡Thos. Edison💡 says:

        Isn't that the idea behind it? To make people think twice before buying Huawei?

      • Anne Smith says:

        OMG, our corporations did it to themselves! The world CAN function without us! How very astounding!

    • Dave says:

      Yes, windows 10 is biggest failure of windows so far.

    • Anne Smith says:

      The article means to convey that Microsoft's plans for world domination are cracking.

  9. James Dinsmore says:

    I like your point that Linux provides good option under these circumstances. Yes, I'd buy it; hope this dies down like the Furbies that were banned from the Pentagon. I have nothing to hide; and I don't handle security-sensitive material. Just an ordinary user who likes Linux.

  10. roborodent says:

    "However, any company operating outside of the USA (not only China) should be prepared with a backup plan. As long as any president of the USA can arbitrarily restrict access to American technology, which could potentially ruin a foreign company, it is foolish to not have an alternative ready to go. "

    Here's a back up plan. Continue using your Windows 10 PC!
    Why would anyone lose their OS just because in this fantasy world the US president restrict access to something.

    Some of you guys need to chill.

  11. Bobby Salvin says:

    I would pass on the Linux computer right now because be it would not be compatible with various applications upon which my work flow is dependent. But with a sufficient volume of Linux computers sold, maybe software producers will start to make Linux versions of their products, which would be a good thing.

  12. Leo Gessford Jr. says:

    Trump 2020

  13. adevar says:

    Brian, the average selling price of a Windows laptop here in the US these days is ~$600... that's ~$600 vs the ~$1000+ average selling prices of the Huawei Matebooks you're lusting after here. It's fine for Huawei to target the more upscale consumer. But if Huawei wanted to sell products to 'average' folks, you would find they would also be setting their sights on 'cutting corners' (relative to their current Matebooks) to get their prices down to that ~$600 the 'average' guy/gal/whatever can afford and/or wants to pay.

    It's just ridiculously stupid for you to imply other Windows PC manufacturers ONLY focus on cut-rate '~$600-type (or less)' machines. Unlike Huawei, most other manufacturers have several product lines addressing multiple price points: from ~$200 netbooks to $2000+ business-oriented ultra-ultrabooks that blow Huawei Matebooks out of the water - and everything in between... including products comparable to Huawei Matebooks at apples-to-apples price points.
    Try not to trash your credibility so with such loose throw-away statements...

    • anchovylover says:

      "It's just ridiculously stupid for you to imply other Windows PC manufacturers ONLY focus on cut-rate '~$600-type (or less)' machines"

      I'm curious, which part of the article leads you to that conclusion?

      • Anne Smith says:

        I have no idea what he's talking about, but, Huai definitely sells cut-rate machines. In terms of price. Their quality is supposedly excellent.

    • Anne Smith says:

      The average price for a Windows laptop in the U.S. depends on the brand and where you buy it. You can, or could, buy Huai sort of laptops at Walmart for $200 - $300. Capable of doing what you'd need a laptop for. Not using Windows should be expected to reduce the price from $50 to $100.

  14. YourBreastsAreHuge says:

    There are billions of people that prefer Windows 10 version 1903 to any other OS in existence. That's not an understatement.

    • anchovylover says:

      No, there are not billions of people that prefer W10 1903. At last count all W10 versions combined had around 850 million installs. That's a far cry from billions of people as opposed to installs and 1903 alone is far less in number.

      Now, I use and like W10 1903. It helps MS though when Mac's are ridiculously expensive for most people and ChromeOS is a non starter also for most people. ChromeOS is in additional trouble too if Google move forward with their plans to block content blockers.

      • Pecan says:

        You've got to admit though, he's right about "that's not an understatement". As you say, it is rather exaggeration of such a scale as to be pure hyperbole.

      • 💡Thos. Edison💡 says:

        I agree - although there are more people using Windows 10 than there are installs (and most of them probably do prefer windows over something else). Some single installations are being used by 2, 3, 4, or more users...so that at least takes it closer to a billion. When you add in all of Brian's friends that wish they had Windows, it's probably more than a billion. Perhaps two or three.

  15. ProvidedBy Stevizard says:

    As an IT professional, this could have been a meaningful article, but it isn't. Most of us in IT just don't waste our time thinking about politics. When someone we didn't vote for wins, we wish them the best, and then get back to work. So, stop wasting our time with your political opinions!

    • Anne Smith says:

      This article had remarkably little to do with politics, given that Huai is virtually banned from doing business in the U.S. They never outright mentioned taht.

      This article is about the fact that major computer manufacturers aren't slaves to Microsoft, and the increasing acceptability of Linux in light of Microsoft's antics.

      If you didn't know that, you should stop pretending you can read, and get your nose back in your IT.

  16. MadDoggyca says:

    Huawei's should just sell the hardware with out software installed and only supply the Drivers..

    any sane person would just end up formatting and doing a clean install on any OEM system before even attempting to powering it up ..

    • 💡Thos. Edison💡 says:

      Some of Huawei's equipment is suspect of having hard-coded telemetry and backdoors, so simply wiping a drive may not do the trick.

      • MadDoggyca says:

        Suspected key word, and even if it dose, I would rather them ship there PC's (laptops ect) with out a OS then linux any day..

        also I take a P30 Pro over any other phone atm because ,dam those camera sensors and unbeatable. and I personally don't care if chain harvesting data,

        I already own a Facebook account, a Google account, a MS account and a linked in... soooo every one has my data..

  17. Anne Smith says:

    If Huai laptops come with Linux preinstalled instead of Linux, I am very likely to buy one.

    I currently run Ubuntu 18.04 on a desktop with refurbished parts and a refurbished laptop.

    I also run Windows 7 as needed in Virtual Box in Ubuntu on my desktop.

    Sadly, I don't anticipate ever buying any desktop, at affordable prices they are under equipped and too small to upgrade. I build my desktops.

  18. Bob Bosak says:

    You bet. As it is every laptop I purchase gets reloaded with Linux. Windows is for dinosaurs not people that need to have their machines usable. Windows 10 needs to be retired as is now over 7 years old. All MS does is keep patching and updating. Why anyone would want an OS so poorly maintained is beyond me!

    If MS actually knew half as much as Linus Torvalds, maybe then would be usable and decent. Nope is not the case since windows is basically is a pretty face on a IBM system that had underlying issues. So as I always ask why or how could someone trust an OS built in that manner over someone that built the OS himself?

    Blows me away Windows even turned down offers of help from Torvalds also! Sure in recent years they have accepted, but over all these years, their ignorance and lack of knowledge prevails. Hooray to Huawei for realizing is foolish to stay on a sinking ship. R.I.P. Microsoft 2019!

  19. Remdot C says:

    Huawei is openly backed by the Chinese intelligence community. Perhaps you should use this magic thing called "google" to dig for yourself before you post liberal biased bovine excrement as that what this article is.

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